Interview on National Energy Education Act
October 23, 2008
May 30, 2008 | Teryn Norris,
David Roberts at Grist argued in two posts today that coal is largely uneconomical - that it may play an insignificant role in our future energy supply - and that carbon capture & storage (CCS) is an unnecessary and unviable technology. In his first post, he cited evidence about peak coal production - "The Great Coal Rush (And Why It Will Fail)" - raising doubts that there will be future coal supplies. He went on in his second post:
"The [CCS] push is looking more and more hollow. In the NYT, Matt Wald paints a grim picture: cost overruns, technological uncertainty, waning support from utilities, and a mess of unanswered questions about everything from security to legal liability...
Coal isn't cheap. That's why 59 proposed plants got scuttled last year... an activity that leads to an uninhabitable planet cannot, by definition, be "cheap"... The health and environmental costs of coal are real costs. Subtract them from the societal value of coal and you get a negative sum..."
"If CCS doesn't work out, a moratorium on new coal plants is put in place, and we slowly begin shuttering existing coal plants, we will not be cast into economic misery and privation. New sources are rapidly developing and deploying; the energy efficiency market is exploding; both those trends will be turbo-charged by a price on carbon and a moratorium on coal. Once the horrific danger of climate change becomes unavoidably clear, there will be enormous public investment in green R&D and infrastructure."
Comments
...and after actually reading Robert's post in context, he makes the same point.
First of all, coal isn't cheap. The rock itself is still fairly cheap on a on a dollar-per-BTU basis -- though that's changing rapidly -- but what matters is the cost of delivered power, and on that basis coal-fired power plants, qua investments, suck. The cost of building power plants is spiking, up 130 percent since 2000 and 76 percent in just the last three years. Last year, the price for supercritical coal exceeded $2500/kW.
By Kai Bosworth on 2008 05 31
Coal itself is cheap, but the process of creating electricity from IGCC coal fired power plants with CCS isn't. IGCC plants are 20-30% more expensive than regular coal plants. CCS will add an entirely new infrastructure (thousands of miles of steel pipeline), 25% of the plant's produced electricity to move the CO2 itself, liability costs, AND the demonstration and deployment that would be necessary over the next 20 years. Roberts is wrong in that coal is currently cheap (despite the fact coal prices have doubled in the last year and demand continues to rise), but CCS entirely changes the picture. I'm not arguing against the exploration of CCS as a viable technology, but only that we consider the very real costs that are involved in the process.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/30/business/30coal.html?scp=2&sq=coal&st=nyt
By Kai Bosworth on 2008 05 31