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Climate McCarthyism Part 3: The Hyper-Partisan Mind
What gave rise to Joe Romm and Climate McCarthyism? In a word: hyper-partisanship. America is more polarized politically today than it has been in 130 years. The fracturing of traditional media has political partisans looking for people who will filter news, analysis, and opinions for them. Democrats who care about the environment have been turning to Joe Romm. They wished for somebody tough to stand up to the bad guys on climate change. They wished for somebody to simplify complicated questions. In "The Hyper-Partisan Mind," we see why they should be careful what they wish for.

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In Part 1 and in Part 2 we documented how Joe Romm uses McCarthyite tactics, including character assassination, misrepresentation, and guilt-by-association, to intimidate the press corps and discredit non-skeptical climate experts as "global warming deniers." In this post we will explore one of the main forces that gave rise to Climate McCarthyism: hyper-partisan polarization.

by Michael Shellenberger and Ted Nordhaus

America is more polarized today than at any time since Reconstruction. A major quantitative analysis by social scientists Nolan McCarty, Keith Poole and Howard Rosenthal found today to be the most polarized period in 130 years.

Little wonder then that Romm's strength lies in his appeals to Democratic partisan identity. He writes for a Democratic audience and mobilizes liberal and environmentalist readers to attack reporters, activists, and policymakers who diverge, literally, from the Party line.

Today's fractured and polarized media environment has allowed Joe Romm to become the most influential liberal climate activist in the country, largely because he has convinced liberals and Democrats that he is an energy and climate science expert. This explains why Nobel Prize Winner and New York Times columnist Paul Krugman says "I trust Joe Romm," Thomas Friedman calls ClimateProgress.org "the indispensable blog," Al Gore relies on him for technical analysis, and the Center for American Progress makes him the organization's chief spokesperson on climate and energy issues.

In this post we will see how Romm helps Democrats make mental short-cuts about who to trust and distrust, which technologies are promising and which are chimeras, and which policies to advocate and which to oppose. We will document how Romm does this by inventing associations between people he disagrees with and various Republicans, particularly George W. Bush.

And we will argue - against those who pooh-pooh his influence - that Joe Romm is, in fact, far more influential today than Joe McCarthy was in the 1950s, a fact that, unfortunately, has proven poisonous to creating the consensus needed for serious action on climate.

Partisan Identity as a Mental Short-Cut

It's no coincidence that America's Climate McCarthyite-in-chief is a blogger at the largest liberal think tank and not a U.S. Senator. Busy fundraising and campaigning, members of Congress have largely outsourced the deliberative process of legislating to partisan interest groups and think tanks.

Meanwhile, the explosion of new media and the resulting flood of information means that educated partisans - including beat reporters and national columnists -- are looking for partisan specialists to filter their news, analysis, and media commentary. "We may believe intellectually in the clash of opinions," Times' columnist Nicholas Kristof noted, "but in practice we like to embed ourselves in the reassuring womb of an echo chamber."

Much has been written about the ideological echo chamber conservatives like Sen. James Inhofe, Rush Limbaugh, and Glen Beck have created to enforce anti-environmental orthodoxy on the Right. Less remarked upon has been the creation of its analog on the Left - an accomplishment in which Romm has taken a leading role. Romm has mastered the echo chamber in its liberal expression and creates a reassuring green womb for his growing cadre of loyal readers. Every day of the week he dutifully filters the news, telling readers the good news of yet another McKinsey report on how energy efficiency more than pays for itself!, and the bad news of yet another outrageous declaration by the dastardly Sen. Inhofe. In one post Romm serves up news stories of natural disasters as evidence of the imminent apocalypse, while in the next he touts new studies showing how cheap solar power is and how expensive nuclear is.

Most importantly Romm functions to inform his readers of the partisan identity of any given thing, whether it be a new technology, policy, or analysis. Thus, when it came time for Romm to criticize a rather technical piece on the rising carbon intensity of the global economy that appeared in the journal Nature -- which we discussed in our last post -- he attacked it, not as inaccurate or incorrect, but rather as Republican.

It will be no surprise to learn the central point of their essay, ironically titled "Dangerous Assumptions" (available here or here with a subscription) is "Enormous advances in energy technology will be needed to stabilize atmospheric carbon dioxide concentrations at acceptable levels," which is otherwise known as the technology trap or the standard "Technology, technology, blah, blah, blah" delayer message developed by Frank Luntz and perfected by Bush/Lomborg/Gingrich.

In other words, the Nature article was not what it claimed to be. It wasn't an analysis suggesting that the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change should revisit its assumptions about decarbonization. It wasn't an argument for stronger technology policies. No, it was a devious Republican message - one designed by Republican pollster Frank Luntz during the Bush years -- to delay action.

How then did Romm become convinced that, rather than being genuine, the "Dangerous Assumptions" analysis was, in fact, Republican propaganda? Because Romm's Climate McCarthyism is, in large measure, the product of his Hyper-Partisan mind, one which sees everything through the gaze of Republican or Democratic, "climate denier" or "climate science advocate," and "climate destroyer" or climate savior.

Earlier this year Romm attacked two of the world's leading environmental economists, Richard Tol and William Nordhaus (the co-author's uncle). Their crime? They were thanked in the acknowledgements of a study by economists from MIT, Northwestern and the National Bureau of Economic Research, which was subsequently touted by the conservative Heritage Foundation.

In another post attacking Tol, Romm wrote:

Tol's work is a beloved of the right wing global warming deniers.

Enough said -- at least for Romm's liberal readers. Having made this mental (and tribal) short cut, Romm's readers were freed by Romm to chuck the entire corpus of Tol's work.

Elsewhere Romm attacked Robert Mendelsohn, another leading environmental economist:

When the global warming deniers and delayers at right wing think tanks like the Hoover Institute agree with your analysis, you should start to ask yourself whether you really know what you're talking about. [Bold in the original]

Get it? The economists in question should rethink their work not because their assumptions are wrong, or their findings invalid, but rather because a conservative think tank agrees with them.

Now, the two of us have very substantial disagreements with these environmental economists and most neoclassical economists, many of which we laid out in our on-line debate hosted by Cato, which included participation from Joe Romm. That said, we've never felt the need to fabricate some association with the "right wing," Republicans, or "global warming deniers." The environmental economists have an argument, one that is robust and powerfully made, if ultimately wrong and misleading, in our view. But their work merits an argument, not an attack by association.

If You Do Not Agree Then You Must Be A Republican

Romm does not simply enforce the existing Democratic discourse, he also seeks to narrow it, effectively reducing its appeal by making it more hysterical, shrill, and apocalyptic. Again, readers would be mistaken in imagining that the blogger's work isn't effective: Romm has convinced elites, including Thomas Friedman in his book, Hot Flat and Crowded, that global warming will be much worse than the UN IPCC is telling us.

Little surprise, then, that Romm felt the need to attack the views of environment writer Gregg Easterbrook for writing a critical review of Friedman's book, which relied heavily on Romm's apocalyptic interpretation of the climate science. Here's Easterbrook:

Why does the cocktail-party circuit embrace claims about a pending climate doomsday? Partly owing to our nation's shaky grasp of science--many Americans lack basic understanding of chemicals, biology, and natural systems. Another reason is the belief that only exaggerated cries of crisis engage the public's attention; but this makes greenhouse concern seem like just another wolf cry.

Romm responded by calling Easterbrook -- wait for it -- Republican.

Thanks to the Gregg Easterbrooks of the country -- otherwise known as Reagan, Gingrich, Bush and McCain -- the United States became only a bit player in a global industry it helped create and once dominated, a bit player in what will certainly be one of the largest job-creating industries in the world.

Reading Romm, one would be hard pressed to conclude that Easterbrook was anything other than an opponent of action to reduce carbon emissions. In fact, Easterbrook is an advocate of the dominant Democratic and environmental approach to climate change, cap and trade. "Government should regulate greenhouse emissions," he wrote in his review, "then let the free market sort out the details, including by funding the research."

Easterbrook's policy agenda turns out to be closer to most national environmental groups than to Bush's, Gingrich's, or Luntz's. If Easterbrook is recycling partisan talking points, they are mostly Democratic, not Republican ones, save for his view that global warming's threat is real but not apocalyptic.

Greenhouse gases are an air-pollution problem. Smog and acid rain, the two previous serious air-pollution problems, once were viewed as emergency threats. Then federal standards were imposed, and inventions and new business models were devised; now smog and acid rain are way down in the United States and declining in much of the rest of the world
This position is nearly identical to Romm's.

We do not (as readers of Break Through and this blog know) share Romm's and Easterbrook's confidence that new regulations will result in the technological revolution we need to massively reduce emissions by mid-century. Acid rain and smog regulations worked because we already had cheap scrubbers, low-sulfur coal, and catalytic converters. By contrast, we do not have cheap low-carbon power sources, and new regulations will not make expensive renewables cheap. We did not get computers through a cap and trade program on typewriters, nor the Internet through a tax on telegraphs. We got them through government procurement and investment, the same way we got railroads, highways, solar panel, pharmaceutical drugs, cheap food, and many other wonders that we take for granted.

Long story short, our policy agenda is radically different from Easterbrook's. No matter. For Romm, if it's not his agenda, it's Republican.

What do Michael Crichton, Bjorn Lomborg, Frank Luntz, George W Bush (and his climate/energy advisors) have in common with Michael Shellenberger & Ted Nordhaus?

Romm went on to misrepresent our position, but he need not have bothered. Most of his readers had already heard enough to make up their minds.

McCarthyism in a Hyperpartisan Era

Some readers have complained to us that Joe Romm is no Joe McCarthy. They are right. Joe Romm is far more influential. Others wonder why we criticize Romm, who believes passionately that global warming is occurring and that we must take action to address it, rather than Limbaugh or Inhofe, who reject climate science and oppose action.

And yes, to be fair, McCarthy had the ability to get people fired and put on blacklists. In this way he was more powerful. But Romm shapes how a whole generation of Democratic leaders, liberals, and greens think about the most serious environmental problem in the world, climate change, and about the master resource, energy, in the most powerful economy humankind has ever created. In this way Romm is more influential.

Thomas Friedman believes Romm when Romm says that new regulations and a price on carbon will not only save the world from apocalypse but also make us all rich in the process. Paul Krugman said he didn't even have to read Superfreakonomics to know it was "unforgivably wrong" because "I trust Joe Romm." And everyone from Nobelist Al Gore to Nancy Pelosi to Barbara Boxer relies on Joe Romm to support their claims that "we have all the tools we need" - efficiency, conservation, and renewables -- to solve global warming.

Joe McCarthy could not have dreamt of Joe Romm's power. While McCarthy used his power to partisan ends, his era was, surprisingly enough, one of the least polarized periods over the last 130 years. McCarthy was hated by Senators from his own party and he had little to no impact on the larger political agenda, which was already firmly anti-Communist, among both Republicans and Democrats. McCarthy was a power-hungry opportunist whose anti-Communist witch hunts worked for him personally for a few years until he was taken out by CBS' Edward Murrow, and others establishment figures.

By contrast Joe Romm advises the Democratic Party establishment and helps set and enforce the political agenda on two of the most important issues facing the United States and the world: energy and climate. Those who wave away Romm's influence are disconnected from our new hyper-partisan and fractured media reality.

"The nation grows more politically segregated," Nicholas Kristof quoted Bill Bishop, the author of the Big Sort, saying, "and the benefit that ought to come with having a variety of opinions is lost to the righteousness that is the special entitlement of homogeneous groups."

Think of it: Romm's influence is so great that he can get Thomas Friedman to accept and recite a fairy tale about the past -- regulations created the personal computer and the Internet! -- and a nightmare about the future. Romm can get Paul Krugman to call an economics book by a fellow New York Times blogger "unforgivably wrong" without even reading it. And Joe Romm can shape much of what educated American liberals, environmentalists and Democrats think about any given energy and climate news event, scientific article, book, or policy proposal.

Joe Romm has the trust of liberals and Democrats, but not on the force of his arguments, the weight of his evidence, or the success of his agenda, for all are spectacular failures As terrible as it may turn out to be, global warming is not "apocalypse now." Efficiency that is supposedly quick and easy -- but for some reason doesn't happen -- is neither quick nor easy. Today's renewables are simply too expensive and too unreliable to quickly and cheaply replace coal plants and power the world. And repeating the old and comforting green nostrums, day-after-day, in ever-louder decibels, does not change the political economies of Ohio and Montana much less China and India.

No, Joe Romm has won the trust of partisans because he tells them the story they want to hear better than anyone else. Unfortunately, hyper-partisans like Joe Romm are part of the problem, not the solution. Effective solutions to global warming cannot be be enacted in our extremely divided political environment.

Democratic partisans, liberals and greens have spent much of the last eight years tearing out our hair about all the ways the hyper-partisan it's-all-a-hoax! Republicans have blocked action on climate. These complaints may have been cathartic, but they have not been productive. We have not had and cannot have any impact on Republicans, and our partisan apocalypse talk and our sacrifice-now agenda are obviously alienating the vast, moderate middle.

The work of holding Republican obstructionists, anti-government extremists, and right-wing conspiracy mongers to task is work for principled conservatives, not liberals. The work of greens and liberals is to challenge the Democratic demagogues, the left-wing bullies, and the Climate McCarthyites who narrow and polarize the debate in ways that make effective policy action all but impossible. If we can hold our own hyper-partisans to account then fair-minded conservatives might do the same. For until the establishment and the grassroots on both left and right learn to say no to Joe Romm and to Glenn Beck, hyper-partisanship is here to stay.


Further reading:

Climate McCarthyism, Part I: Joe Romm's Intimidation Campaign

Climate McCarthyism Part 2: Equate Your Political Opponents with Holocaust Deniers



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18 COMMENTS:

This is an important essay for making sense of the "hyper-partisan era," regardless of what you think about Joe Romm. I hope years from now we look back on figures like Beck, Limbaugh, and Romm and wonder how they could have gain so much influence over the national discourse -- and in the case of Romm, the Democratic leadership and the U.S. climate policy agenda.
There needs to be a lot more research on Joe Romm to understand his history.

One peculiar thing is the quiet demise of his Center for Energy and Climate Solutions--which he touted as the next big thing (along with his beloved Enron Energy Services--EES). Energy service companies (ESCOs) could lead us to save our energy way to Kyoto compliance, Romm postulated.

As I discuss at http://www.masterresource.org/2009/06/market-conservation-vs-government-conservationism-understanding-the-limits-to-energy-efficiency-and-new-economy-escos/

Joe Romm got into the ESCO boom, trying to do on the nonprofit side with the Center for Energy and Climate Solutions (CECS) what Enron, PG&E, and Duke were trying to do on the profit side. His hopes were high. As Romm said in the introduction of Cool Companies (p. 14):

"In 1998, I left the Department of Energy to work with companies to identify best practices and develop customized strategies. I am constantly amazed at how many major companies are unaware of how much money and energy they are wasting and how many are misinformed about cogeneration and other opportunities for lowering emissions while increasing profits. That is why I have written this book and established the nonprofit Center for Energy and Climate Solutions [CECS]. The center is a one-stop shop for businesses seeking to reduce greenhouse gas emissions and is helping companies to adopt the cool strategies discussed in this book."

But the nonprofit CECS bit the dust too [with the aforementioned ESCOs], which raises further questions about the ESCO model of the time. For if profits were just lying on the ground, why did Romm need to form a nonprofit to get companies to pick them up? Why didn't he form an outsourcing company himself, or work for PG&E or Enron or Duke -- and make BIG MONEY. ----------------

So just what did happen to his nonprofit--there is virtually no history of it remaining on the Internet. How much partnering did Romm do with Enron's most fraudulent division? And what are the implications of the demise of CECS and EES for the McKinsey study on energy efficiency as a huge free lunch?

I ask these questions in hopes of getting them answered.
Rob Bradley -- Very interesting. The Enron connection is something I don't know about, although I had heard that the Enron traders had moved on after the wreckage of Enron to pushing trade in carbon credits. Some dates and specifics on the Enron connection to the Center for American Progress and to Joe Romm would be helpful to understand why a respected scientist like Dr. Romm, whose book debunking hydrogen cars is a valuable contribution, and whose Climate Progress blog used to be technically informative and not encumbered with partisan water-carrying, would suddenly be smitten by the light in the Spring of 2009 and come to embrace what he had previously derided as "rip-offsets" in Waxman-Markey.
You guys described the zeitgeist of our time..

Great series, guys. One additional point I'd like to make about tactics like Romm's is that they drive people into the skeptic/denier camp (apologies if you already mentioned that in an earlier post - if you did, I missed it).

I'm not speaking theoretically here - my own views are very skeptical, and I've been noticing that more of the people I talk to lately seem to agree with me. But a fair number of them haven't investigated the science and come to a conclusion on that basis; they've just watched the tone of the debate.

They tend to believe that if someone demonizes his opponent instead of responding directly to his arguments, that's a sure-fire sign that they have no counter-arguments. Since the folks I've talked to tend to see the "climate change is a serious problem" side resorting to this tactic more often and more forcefully than the "it's not a problem" side (whether that's due to it being reality, their choice of news sources, or just Romm and those like him being harder to ignore, I don't know), and so they conclude that the "it's not a problem" side must have the better arguments.

Frankly, I find this trend rather troubling, just as much as people falling for Romm's tactics. We'd be better served if more people - on both sides - just admitted "I don't have a clue", instead of trying to make up their minds by those methods. As it is, politicians are trying to make momentous, far-reaching decisions with one eye monitoring a public opinion that's really more blind emotion than opinion. Not good if you want coherent public policy.

Omigod! Mike just called himself a "skeptic/denier"! That's the exact same thing as intimidating himself into silence! He basically just called himself a Nazi! Get out of here, Nazi! Right, MS&TN? I mean, that's the whole premise for your use of the term 'McCarthyite', no? You've determined, conclusively, that "denier" in the global warming context is the precise equivalent of "Holocaust denier" in the Nazi/Holocaust context, and therefore anyone who uses the term "denier" can properly be labeled a McCarthyite who is trying to silence debate and turn his opponents into pariahs by directly analogizing them to people who deny the Holocaust. There's no difference! Everyone who sees the term 'denier' thinks the person being described is a loathsome Nazi sympathizer. So poor Mike here is, perhaps unwittingly, labeling himself a Holocaust denier. For shame, Mike! And hey, Michael & Ted, thanks ever so much for keeping things civil and not, in any way, emulating the exact same tactics you claim to decry.

Ted: Let's take it straight from the horse's mouth. In a brief moment of sobriety, Romm acknowledged that the use of the term "denier" with regard to climate skepticism is inappropriate. That lasted about three days. Then he was back to tarring those he disagreed with - including those who where neither skeptical about anthropogenic warming nor opposed to strong action - as "deniers."

Here's Romm in March, 2008:

http://climateprogress.org/2008/03/10/media-enable-denier-spin-3-please-stop-calling-them-skeptics/
Second, I see comments from a lot of delayers who intensely dislike being linked to "Holocaust deniers." They feel there is no way to use the term "denier" without people immediately thinking of that other group of disinformers. If the term were accurate, this objection wouldn't count for much, but in fact the delayers are nothing like Holocaust deniers. Third, "Holocaust deniers" are denying an established fact from the past. If the media or politicians or the public took them at all seriously, I suppose it might increase the chances of a future Holocaust. But, in fact, they are very marginalized, and are inevitably attacked and criticized widely whenever they try to spread their disinformation, so they have no significant impact on society. The delayers, however, are very different and far more dangerous. They are trying to persuade people not to take action on a problem that has not yet become catastrophic, but which will certainly do so if we listen to them and delay acting much longer.
Three things.
1. FYI, your "part 1" link goes to the wrong post - the correct part 1 URL is:
http://thebreakthrough.org/blog/2009/11/climate_mccarthyism_part_i_joe.shtml
2. ...which is where I wrote 2 comments giving my views of this series -
http://thebreakthrough.org/blog/2009/11/climate_mccarthyism_part_i_joe.shtml#12511
and
http://thebreakthrough.org/blog/2009/11/climate_mccarthyism_part_i_joe.shtml#12516 )

3. Breakthrough Blog readers might be interested in a Scitizen essay that I found perceptive and relevant, "Attention Nordhaus and Shellenberger: Time to Call A Cease-Fire!"
Excerpt:
"...beneath the aggressive and down[-right] adversarial tone of Nordhaus and Shellenberger and the understandably defensive tone of folks like McKibben and Pope, there's not much the two supposedly warring sides disagree on!

So here's a question for Nordhaus and Shellenberger: who are you arguing with?!

Nordhaus and Shellenberger and their Breakthrough Institute cohorts keep taking a stridently adversarial tone towards the very people who should be their allies - environmentalists and clean energy/global warming activists...

Largely due to this combative manner, I would argue that Nordhaus and Shellenberger have manufactured an argument that doesn't truly exist, a supposed conflict between regulation-centric and investment-centric camps, with 'ideologically dead environmentalists' on one side and 'courageous new thinkers' like Nordhaus and Shellenberger on the other."

The essay was authored by an intelligent and thoughtful young fellow named Jesse Jenkins, and is here:
http://scitizen.com/stories/Science-policy/2007/10/Attention-Nordhaus-and-Shellenberger-Time-to-Call-A-Cease-Fire/ - and .

(p.s. Apologies for this comment's lateness - I'm on Mr. Shellenberger's email list, and when he sent this out I wanted to reply with the Jenkins link and quote, but managed to overlook what was under my nose and missed where it(part3) was posted here. Joe Romm subsequently alerted me to it.)
Also, 2 comments in response to a TN (Nordhaus) assertion (within an Eli comment) in the "Part 1" post -
"... political science department ... might explain ... that libertarian funders typically don't fund organizations that advocate MASSIVE STATE INVESTMENT IN THE DEVELOPMENT AND DEPLOYMENT OF CLEAN ENERGY TECHNOLOGIES."

First, anecdotal evidence (from talking to exactly ONE libertarian, but it "feels" right to me) - my Libert. friend advocates a giant push for clean energy as the solution to the climate problem. (Did he get this from his libertarian readings? I don't know, will try to find out.)

Second - IMU, libertarians *do* see a role for govt, they're not anarchists - and fixing climate change fits the bill for the kind of problem that they do see as fit for govt effort to address.
(unless the term "libertarianism" is just a euphemism for "short-term, big-business-profit-friendly thinking")
ok, enough time spent here.
p.s. does anyone know why the TBI blog spits out comments with the explanation(sic) "Text entered was wrong"?
...but reading more closely, Ted was talking about libertarian *funders*, not libertarians themselves. The distinction - and the reason for it - is worth considering. (this is my 3rd comment this morning; as of 11am PST, #1 is awaiting moderation)
"Joe McCarthy could not have dreamt of Joe Romm's power"

ROFL. Thanks, I needed that.
This was *not* how I meant to spend my morning. But...
re my "Ted was talking about libertarian *funders*" (who, sez Ted, "typically don't fund organizations that advocate MASSIVE STATE INVESTMENT...") - I beg to differ with Ted. "Divide and conquer" is a well known strategy; you can do it by funding adversarial and combative people among the opposition, then amplifying their voices. I wouldn't expect PR people to be unaware of this.
In case my first comment doesn't show up, it was on an extremely apropos analysis of the Shellenberger&Nordhaus M.O. - authored by Mr. Jesse Jenkins, presumably before he joined The Breakthrough Institute.
Well, first of all, Romm is nothing like McCarthy, and Hank Robert's take on this at cejournal is correct in all regards. "Waitaminute. Are _any_ of Nordhaus, Shellenberger, Kloor, or Yulsman actually old enough to remember the McCarthy era from personal experience? I find it hard to believe any of you could recall life in those times, and think some guy on a blog is remotely comparable. You’re looking at the television or the words — not the reality of the power McCarthy had. You can’t be old enough to remember the reality, and think these are comparable situations. I was five years old, a college faculty brat, sitting in front of a tiny little 12″ black and white television, having heard since I started to understand how hard it was for teachers simply to try to teach. My parents and their peers had fought a war, and come back, and started to live — and were afraid, though they didn’t want to show it. McCarthy was powerful and had done great damage. I remember this — when it was first broadcast — and I remember the beginning of hope that it gave after people realized it had happened. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAur_I077NA “Card carrying Communist” witch hunts? People losing their jobs on suspicion and anonymous accusation? The blacklists? The utter fear among academics of teaching something that would get them denounced? You’re way off base. Romm’s maybe a Jerry Rubin or an Abbie Hoffman — he’s theatrical, he’s dramatic, I can’t read him very long, any more than I can read a lot of public bloggers who are so heartfelt they have trouble keeping their heads screwed on straight — though he’s far better than most. Sometimes he’s a flamer, sometimes he’s a clown, often he’s an attention-getter, and, always, he’s got to be more careful of his facts and cite his claims better– like any public speaker on anything important. And we’re in the midst of a great extinction, and he knows it. And you guys don’t, apparently, or you’d care more and show more knowledge and you’d be scared to death and trying to spend your lives on this problem, and you might even get a little erratic yourself instead of arch and polished. But, man, I remember Joe McCarthy Joe Romm is no Joe McCarthy. Not even close, not even comparable. You look at that video, and look at the videos of some of the really slick, sophisticated, anti-environmental spokespeople. You’ll see a similarity, for sure. Joe Romm’s not one of those. He’s maybe _trying_ to be that smooth and orgnaized, but he’s just never got the self control to be the kind of sleaze that McCarthy was, and he’s never had anything remotely like the power McCarthy had. Get real, kids. You’re not repeating history here.
My "held for moderation" comment from 24 hrs ago still hasn't appeared. Until then, I'll just suggest that readers read the essay that comes up when you google

"stridently adversarial tone towards the very people who should be their allies" site:scitizen.com

Hint: the essay doesn't mention Joe Romm.
You quote a pernicious statement by Greg Easterbrook, and it should not be quoted in his defense:
Greenhouse gases are an air-pollution problem. Smog and acid rain, the two previous serious air-pollution problems, once were viewed as emergency threats. Then federal standards were imposed, and inventions and new business models were devised; now smog and acid rain are way down in the United States and declining in much of the rest of the world.
The idea that CO2 is "an air pollution problem" in this sense invites the dangerous misconception that, like smog and acid rain, cutting pollutant emissions in half would cut pollution in half. In the case of CO2 levels would continue to increase. Incomprehension of this fact is extraordinarily widespread and is the basis for a fundamental and dangerous misunderstanding. Easterbrook's statement is therefore hugely misinformative.
PleaseNote should also be aware that, since current CO2 levels are around 380 ppm, cutting the actual atmospheric level in half to 190 ppm would mean that most of the plant life on the planet would begin to starve, since the minimum level to sustain photosynthesis (and hence all Earthly life) is around 180 ppm. The 100-ppm increase in atmospheric CO2 has already had benefits -- the tropical rainforest is growing back at unprecedented rates and an area of the Sahara larger than the state of Georgia has returned to sahel capable of supporting nomadic tribes. There is simply no actual evidence anywhere -- including the IPCC's AR4, WG1, Ch. 9 -- either that CO2 is responsible for measurable climate change or that increased levels of it produce anything but benefits for life all over the globe. And, by the way, since when is it "anti-environmental orthodoxy" to object to the vandalization of thousands of acres of wilderness, wildlife habitat, and rural countryside with wind turbine wastelands which produce nothing useful but subsidies for Wall Street? One of the most interesting things about Romm's cap-and-trade fanaticism is that it's designed to provide huge profits for the carbon brokers -- which was Enron's original idea.
PleaseNote should also be aware that, since current CO2 levels are around 380 ppm, cutting the actual atmospheric level in half to 190 ppm would mean that most of the plant life on the planet would begin to starve, since the minimum level to sustain photosynthesis (and hence all Earthly life) is around 180 ppm.

The 100-ppm increase in atmospheric CO2 has already had benefits -- the tropical rainforest is growing back at unprecedented rates and an area of the Sahara larger than the state of Georgia has returned to Sahel capable of supporting nomadic tribes.

There is simply no actual evidence anywhere -- including the IPCC's AR4, WG1, Ch. 9 -- either that CO2 is responsible for measurable climate change or that increased levels of it produce anything but benefits for life all over the globe.

And, by the way, since when is it "anti-environmental orthodoxy" to object to the vandalization of thousands of acres of wilderness, wildlife habitat, and rural countryside with wind turbine wastelands which produce nothing useful but subsidies for Wall Street? One of the most interesting things about Romm's cap-and-trade fanaticism is that it's designed to provide huge profits for the carbon brokers -- which was Enron's original idea.

just wanna tell a joke. i came here from revkin's twitter cite of part 4. you haveto understand, after half a day chuckling about the gigantic #acornfacts joke fest at deep-red repub expense, to come here and find: "Some readers have complained to us that Joe Romm is no Joe McCarthy. They are right. Joe Romm is far more influential." ---there's only so much a person can laugh before they start feeling sick.

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